Artless Bastards are back with their fourth podcast episode! This month Andrew and Jazz talk to Kirli Saunders and Heather Burness. Kirli Saunders is a proud Gunai Woman and award-winning international writer of poetry, plays and picture books. She is a teacher, cultural consultant and artist and was named the 2020 NSW Aboriginal Woman of the Year.

Heather Burness is a highly respected visual artist and educator who works in print-based mediums and works on paper. She uses unconventional print processes using steel plates that have been corroded in the flow of water or soil. Heather also draws and takes photos.

Rounding out the program is arts business expert Monica Davidson from Creative + Business, talking about the roller-coaster ride of having a career as a creative practitioner.

Artless Bastards will take a little summer break and be back with new episodes in Feb 2021. The previous 3 episodes are archived on the website.